
Originally Posted by
Haunebu III
Grüße Josh!
"No my "Ordination" arised out of a need in my kindred. I understand many people have done great things without making claims about meeting the Gods or a God or Goddess. But in reality our ancestors felt the Gods talking to them and thats how they became Godhis and Gythias."
Let's stop all this silliness and review what you've said in this forum. You claimed that you had a "UPG" and that while meditating you were taken to Valhalla by a Valkery no less and that you stood "in front of Odin" and that he selected you to be a "champion", and that he knighted you, and on and on and on....blah, blah, blah. Look, if you really want to be a "Champion" for the folk, then stop spouting all this nonsense about "knights", and being called before the Alfather and the rest of these childish claims. Get serious and start doing things that really matter. Let your deeds speak for you. In the old days, those who owned land and farms and could afford to build a Hoff and offer sacrifice were the ones who became Godhi's. They didn't claim that the Gods "talked to them." Where, in any of the sagas, is there evidence to back up this statement of yours? What they did was live their religion and honor the Gods. Those who lived in the area, village, or immediate vicinity were invited to take part in these celebrations.
**** you who are you to say it didnt happen? I know what happened to me believe it or not and I dont give a flying F*** what you think.
<<Amazing! Please enlighten the rest of us here concerning these "myths" about our religion and our Gods! Kindly reveal what some of these "myths" are. I'm curious. Also, you were instructed to change your name from Daniel Joshua Browning to Thorgil Odinsson? Why was that? Did you need to change your name for some reason Daniel?
You must be really blind. Most people who have heard of our religion have heard that we are all hard core racists. And that our Gods are blood thirsty. Where the **** are you from? You have my name wrong. I wanted to assume a heathen name. It's my heathen name much like some kristinns take on a kristinn name.>>
Blind? No I've just been around a long time. Our religion has been misunderstood and accused of being racist and a "Viking religion" and other silly things but in the last 10 years or so that image has begun to dissipate. Asatru is growing and that image is fading away in favor of a new, more enlightened one. Serious people are not wearing chain mail or Viking helmets at moots or gatherings much anymore, (Thank the Gods!) and the religious aspects are taking a more prominent position. You asked me where I'm from. I'm up in Montana and I'm retired. About your name. You're correct it's not Daniel it's Josh. Daniel is your middle name. My mistake.
Maybe where you come from this image has begun to dissipate but not here.
And if they want to dress like our ancestors did so be it. Whats wrong with that? NOTHING THATS WHAT!
<<What kind of misconceptions exactly? Please clarify this.
That I am a promoter of hate by being Odinist.>>
You seem to have a flare for high drama and a craving for attention. I think if you live your life honorably and be an example for others by your deeds and actions you won't have to constantly defend yourself against charges of racism.
What are you a ****ing shrink now?
<<You know what **** you. I have just come into this religion. So back the **** off. You've heard of some good things like everyone else. Did you know he testified against practicing Odinists in prison? Does that strike you as the kind of person that you would want to follow? Not I. I don't care what he has done personally. Once you cross out one group of your religion because of where they are or whatever you lose my respect.>>
I'm well aware of what Valgard Murray has been doing recently. As has most everyone here on this list. I never advocated that anyone "follow" him. You brought up his name along with Steve McNallen's and asked what gave them the right to call themselves Godhi's. I responded that McNallen created one of the oldest Asatru organizations in the US and his other accomplishments. I never mentioned Murray. But all you seem to be able to do is brag about your silly "Odinic knighthood." When you've accomplished even 1/16 of what he and others have actually done for our religion then you'll have earned the right to brag.
I never ****ing bragged about it I simply stated that my kindred was looking for members. Someone asked about the name and I explained. If a ****ing explanation is bragging then you need move to a cave and be alone for the rest of your days.
<<My name is not Daniel. I never claimed to be the guy to talk to about Odinism. You need to get a ****in grip. Calm the **** down and try to listen. This thread was talking about UPGs and I dont care wether you belive it or not. That is why you are not in my kindred. While I dont mind people questioning some things... I don't like obnoxious people who seem to think that I've put myself on a high horse. Thats not what I am saying. Nor am I saying that I am the person to learn everything from, far from it. I am only saying that you need to watch who you choose to follow. I wont follow McNallen or Murray. But thats just me.>>
As I said before, you're right your name isn't Daniel. It's Joshua Daniel Browning and referring to your MySpace page your a "Sexual god" according to your fiance. As well as being a "White Knight." I almost forgot that part. LOL! I'm not in your kindred because 1. I'm in Montana not Texas. And 2, because anyone with any common sense can see what a poser and fraud you really are. You have, in your own words here, "Put yourself up on a high horse." With nothing to back it up except UPG's and exorbitant claims. Close your mouth and do something legitimate and valid and maybe people will really take you seriously.