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battleax
06-13-2005, 09:33 PM
I'm not trolling here but want to hopefully open a discussion on this heavy-handed word censoring we have here.

Was swearing really ever a problem on the old board? Or is this just some fancy feature you want on? If there truly are children viewing on this board won't they have a hard time figuring out the word peac0ck. They will see pea****. And then wonder hmm what are we talking about. If they ask thier parents they will tell them it is a peac0ck. The child will then say hmmm. ****. And then a harmless word has turned into a entirely different meaning.

Give more of the regulars mod status and take the censoring off. We are a community and can manage ourselves.

Hveðrungur Kveldúlfsson
06-13-2005, 09:39 PM
Ive allready replied to the chickens thread. Sorry but the word censors stay. It was an option on the old forum aswell but we never used it. This time around we are, this is a family forum and we want people of all ages to be able to post here without seeing profanitys.

Like I said before, those words are not specifically censored but since they do contain allready censored words they show up with the ****. Small price to pay for a civilized forum.

battleax
06-13-2005, 10:33 PM
So you are not able to change the profanity list? And limit it too the major ones. Do you see my point about normal words being censored? It highlights the fact that they contain a profanity. If this is a family forum than those children visiting the board are not going to being to read some of the words.

I ask my 7 year old to read the post that talked about pea****s. She knows what a pea**** is and knows how to spell it. When asked she did not know what the post was about. I then told her it was a pea****. Then the big question came why was **** left out. How am I supposed to explain that one?

Hveðrungur Kveldúlfsson
06-13-2005, 10:41 PM
And if we take them out people are free to post the "word" whenever they want. The mods and admins arnt online all the time, we dont read every single post on this forum and its better to censor words than to leave them free for people to post. Do you see our point?

texas heathen
06-14-2005, 12:48 AM
Hate to sound like a dork, but is it really that important to use profanity ?
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Clif

MacQuiston
06-14-2005, 01:35 AM
Hate to sound like a dork, but is it really that important to use profanity ?
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Clif

I agree. I think it will not only leave the environment open for younger folk, but keep the forum at a more intellectual level.

Jay
06-14-2005, 02:18 AM
How often is a word like pea**** going to be used here anyway? Seriously.

battleax
06-14-2005, 02:34 AM
How often is a word like pea**** going to be used here anyway? Seriously.

haha .........

battleax
06-14-2005, 02:39 AM
Ok I think you have missed my point. I don't agree with the use of profanity. I just disagree with it blanking out words that are not profane at all just because they have a combination of letters that set off the filter. You can change this. I think you know what you can do with vbull. You can also get a script to allow us to turn "profanity" on so we can see whole words that the filter decided to cut. Like say we had another thread on su****ious looking pea****s.

or if you perfer we can just spell diff; susp1cious peac0cks. I have a feeling this is what it will end up being. I just hope some malicious user doesn't come on the board and figure that out.

Thanks for your time

Jay
06-14-2005, 02:50 AM
I understand that, battle ax. If I can figure out how to manipulate that so that words like pea**** are not censored, then I will do it.

Sigurd
06-14-2005, 09:02 AM
IMHO opinion it would not be necessary to censor all these things, I have actually not noticed any problem arising here so far. And If I call somebody a "Mother****er" then the four asterisk marked letters won't make a difference, the meaning is clear for everyone.

For the pea**** censoring the **** bit is useless. As battleax pointed out the problem with children of knowing that **** can be an improper word.

And I mean, when you actually talk about the male sexual organ, how difficult is it to call it a "penis"...? :rolleyes:

Besides I wonder how many of the following words are censored: Balls, Nuts, Tits, ****, Shag, ****, Ass, Arse, ****

And I guess that some of the other words that are not censored have still a fairly adult meaning, so...um...not wanting to conjure up anything, but what is the point if ass is not ruled out, that su****ious is censored... :confused:

If I say that I intend to "ram my **** up one's ass", it is not censored :rolleyes: :eek: :confused:

aud_friggsdottir
06-14-2005, 11:23 AM
IMHO opinion it would not be necessary to censor all these things, I have actually not noticed any problem arising here so far. And If I call somebody a "Mother****er" then the four asterisk marked letters won't make a difference, the meaning is clear for everyone.

For the pea**** censoring the **** bit is useless. As battleax pointed out the problem with children of knowing that **** can be an improper word.

And I mean, when you actually talk about the male sexual organ, how difficult is it to call it a "penis"...? :rolleyes:

Besides I wonder how many of the following words are censored: Balls, Nuts, Tits, ****, Shag, ****, Ass, Arse, ****

And I guess that some of the other words that are not censored have still a fairly adult meaning, so...um...not wanting to conjure up anything, but what is the point if ass is not ruled out, that su****ious is censored... :confused:

If I say that I intend to "ram my **** up one's ass", it is not censored :rolleyes: :eek: :confused:

Ok...I think this illustrates why the filter is not going to work...also, if someone wants to break the rules they will regardless of filters or threat of banning or whatever consequence. Personally, and I am going against the moderator grain, I don't care if someone cusses and if they were particularly offensive, their post would be deleted or edited or whatever....the point: dealt with accordingly. I am one for rules that reflect a problem...not a "potential" problem...that is rules that have some sort of basis in actually abuse or history...like our rules regarding political grandstanding...they are sensible, but to asterisk out the words mentioned seems silly.

BTW, I have a 14 year old that reads this forum once in a while...I don't care if she sees a few cuss words (hell she hears them regularly in the world!), but the last sentence in this post...I DO have a problem with and I think that is what was Sigurd's point...that sentence is more offensive than ****, ****, ass or the like....

So, how do we find a sensible compromise?

Sigurd
06-14-2005, 11:26 AM
Well, yeah what I was meaning, as you have apparently grasped, is, that one of the most improper sentences I have ever heard is not censored when a harmless word such as su****ious or pea**** is.

Alright, a spam filter is useful but it should be configurated to have it properly work.

Hengest
06-14-2005, 03:54 PM
Ok, I figured it out and I have edited the censor so that suspicious peacocks are now allowed on the forum. Tell me if you see one, I will keep an eye on him.

The filter should now only work for genuine swear words etc but we will keep tabs on it and make adjustments as necessary. The filter will work just fine, just needs a bit of tweaking and teaching.

Jay
06-14-2005, 08:07 PM
Thanks, White Horse...much appreciated. :)